• DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social
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    3 days ago

    So near as to make no difference it absolutely would (at least if you do it in monthly payments… A yearly one would indeed be a bad idea)

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      3 days ago

      Have you worked with the homeless community? I worked directly with them for over 4 years. Community outreach shelter.

      For the vast, vast majority in my area, money/income wasn’t the main cause of their homelessness. Even providing them with free shelter and housing didn’t work. 100 percent of all our cases, the person returned to the streets by choice within 6 months.

      The rules for the free housing were: no illegal drugs, work with the back-to-work training program (in order to get them skills for having a job), and not tearing up the housing.

      If you worked with homeless people, you can imagine how that worked out. Our homeless community just did NOT want to be anywhere that any any rules whatsoever, even rules as lax as those.

      Monthly UBI wouldn’t go towards housing costs for our population of homeless people. Maybe your homeless community is different, but from working with several agencies nationwide, I heard many similar complaints to what I just laid out.

      Now if you are talking about a single mom, with 2 kids, who just got laid off and can’t afford childcare, so she sleeps in her car, fuck yes, UBI would solve that. But that’s not the clientele that make up 99.9 percent of homeless communities.

      Have you worked with homeless communities in a professional capacity?

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          2 days ago

          Oh really? I’m full of shit? Ok, so what was your capacity with regards to working with the homeless community?

          And why do so many people who work with homeless communities agree with me? Are they “full of shit” too?

          I actually think you know I’m right, but since you think I worship Trump, you aren’t gonna agree with anything I say.

          Even though I didn’t vote for him. But let me guess, you think I’m “full of shit” when I say that too, right? lol

          You already have your mind made up about me. We’ve already had previous discussions. What do you hope to achieve by constantly saying stuff and then getting mad at my replies?

          I have mentioned what I’ve done for a living since I joined Lemmy. In fact, the very reason I was able to retire at 54 is because I worked for the state. I have no fucking reason to lie to just win an argument with some random lemmy person who is mad that I didn’t vote for Harris.

          But even ignoring your bias, I’d LOVE UBI. Fuck, if you wanna waste it on homeless people, go for it. As long as all of us get it, I don’t care how they waste theirs.

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            2 days ago

            💩💩💩💩💩

            And yet, instead, you just settled for maybe the concept of a $5k one time payment while your taxes got raised, consumer and union protections got gutted and you still wagged your little tail and begged for more scraps.

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              2 days ago

              So if you get a $5k payment, are you going to donate to the homeless? Totally your option to do that!

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                2 days ago

                Memory problems, huh? Yeah. That tracks.

                I’ll be buying guns and ammo with it for the collapse.

                So yes, it will be going to help the homeless.

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                  1 day ago

                  Oh I remembered, I just to emphasize that you aren’t really helping the homeless. Guess you don’t care about them THAT much.