Luckily we now have populations that eat only animal sourced food and populations who only eat plant foods

It’d be really good to get a prospective study comparing those groups, but in the last 20 years that there have been both of those, no one has compared either to the other. Both have been found to be better than the standard American diet, but just about anything is

I think the problem is there’s religious need behind the effort to make meat look dangerous so more people go vegetarian, but there’s no organisation behind the meat eaters

The first one is based on epidemiological studies, correlation, not causation

The third one is comparing good diets to the standard American diet - high meat, high sugar. Since diabetes is a significant risk factor, don’t you think it might be the sugar?

Your middle one says among other things:

Inconsistencies might be due to differences by setting; most studies showing a positive association were conducted in North America or Europe

So it’s probably not the meat, it’s the things western people eat with their meat.

Why meat comes up as a risk? People who are taking care of their health and watching what they eat, exercising they follow guidelines and don’t eat much meat, but they also avoid pizza and avoid Coca-Cola, and avoid highly processed foods. The people who don’t take care of their health are eating all those things, and meat.

You don’t look down voted to me, you’re on 1 point. I feel like you’re contributing to the conversation.

on an annual basis

Actually on a 5-yearly basis

Known, thanks to the nurses study which doesn’t control for healthy user bias, doesn’t collect enough information to know whether the was meat in that burger

It may have been fish burgers

It may have been impossible burgers

It may have been vegeburgers

It may have been a large double whopper meal

Also it’s not “known” it’s correlated, the more times a week a person eats red meat for example “burgers” or processed meat for example “hotdogs” the note likely they’re going to have some bad effects. I suspect it’s the sugar that comes with the meat

It doesn’t ask about fast food meals, it asks “burgers?”

I recall last time I looked up the nurses study, they not only didn’t control for sugar, they deliberately made it difficult to do. My favourite example is “hamburger”. There is no category for fast food other than that and similar entries like “hotdogs”. Hamburger is classed as red meat with no telling what else was in the meal; hotdogs is processed meat, again with no indication as to what is consumed with it

So maybe it’s the bread wrapping the meat that was bad

Maybe it was the sauces

Maybe it was the french fries

Maybe it was the drink

Your article says processed meat, your title says red meat?

Using the nurses study data. A food frequency questionnaire

Do you remember what you ate for lunch Monday? How about 5 years ago? That’s what a food frequency questionnaire asks. This one counts a McDonald’s big Mac meal with a bucket of coke as “red meat”

Garbage in/garbage out